Things we’ve learned in Aaron/Ruth Topic

david_brent
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1) You can make an offer to your FA as many times as you want at the moment... if he doesn't accept them and goes to test the market.. he can't them come back and take one of your previous offers.... you would need to make offers with every other team once you get to that stage...
2) You can only hire coaches through the coah hiring process... you have to bid with everyone else... they do have loyalty ratings but I'm not sure what if any difference they make...
6/8/2006 7:36 AM
schedule1
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1) might as well, but if he's rated 75+ overall, i believe he'll test the market no matter what you offer.

2) if their loyalty ratings are high, they may sign with you at a lesser rate. hopefully they'll let you know in their correspondence once the process gets started, but i don't think you can negotiate in advance.
6/8/2006 7:36 AM
schedule1
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hey rob, aren't you busy taunting safeco owners in the simleague thread?
6/8/2006 7:37 AM
david_brent
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You know me, Schedule... I'm like the Police... never there when you need them, always there when you don't...
6/8/2006 7:47 AM
richramirez
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Another question: I have a freeagent that will test the waters since his rating is 77. He is also up for arbitration. Should I offer him arbitration instead? Will he still be a free agent if he accepts? Doesn't seem to make much sense because I may lose him in Free Agency anyway.
6/8/2006 8:27 AM
schedule1
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if you can offer him arbitration, he's not a free agent yet. he's eligible for arbitration after his 3rd, 4th and 5th years in the league; after that, he can go on the market. until then, you can sign him to one-year deals at whatever the arbiter rules.
6/8/2006 8:31 AM
richramirez
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Yeah, you're right. I have 2 stud CF's. One is up for arbitration the other is a Free Agent. Sorry for the wrong info.
6/8/2006 8:33 AM
schedule1
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good problem to have.
6/8/2006 8:34 AM
robinhood410
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so, if you release a guy, you have to wait until someone else picks him up to get his salary off your books or is that incorrect? and, if you release them before they hit arbitration, then it costs you nothing?
6/8/2006 8:53 AM
Weena
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If you release a player who is still under a contract then the signing team only pays the minimum - you still pay the bulk of the contract.
If you release a guy who is eligible for arbitration, that means he currently has no contract and therefore his salary is zero.
6/8/2006 9:00 AM
zlionsfan
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When you waive a player and he's signed by another team, that takes the remainder of his contract off your books.
6/8/2006 9:28 AM
ttjackson
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Can you offer a long term salary to an arbitration eligible guy on the day of arbitration, or do you have to do it before arbitration begins? I'm clearing salary via trades that won't be completed until tomorrow.
6/8/2006 9:39 AM
Weena
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I believe you can offer a long-term contract anytime up until the hearings actually begin.
6/8/2006 9:44 AM
marbotty
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How do prospects carry over from year to year? Do you have to cut some players to make room for your new prospects? Do prospects become free agents after a certain number of years in the minors?

Thnks.
6/8/2006 10:45 AM
schedule1
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marbotty, you have an inactive list at each minor-league level, so while you can cut some guys, you don't need to cut a ton of them.
6/8/2006 10:47 AM
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