Somebody please post something. I'm tired of seeing my screen name up here.

BUMP to help Arlen...

Seems the 1885-1899 (in the database) Baltimore Orioles have finally been separated.

Yep, now they show up as "1893 Baltimore Orioles (<1900)"But you can't search the 19th O's seperately from the modern O's or the Pre-Yankees. Also if they were going to do that then why not similar treatment for the 19th century Browns?

Quote: Originally posted by zubinsum on 7/17/2008Yep, now they show up as "1893 Baltimore Orioles (<1900)"But you can't search the 19th O's seperately from the modern O's or the Pre-Yankees.  Also if they were going to do that then why not similar treatment for the 19th century Browns?

There have been alot of complaints lately about the Baltimore Orioles. The biggest problem is that they have have the same name as a modern franchise thus getting sucked into Modern Franchise leagues. The 19th Century Browns belong to the Cardinals not the Twins. There are many examples of improper connections in database. The Washington Senators and the Philadelphia Athletics are other examples. Admin has acknowledged that they need to fix this in a future update.
I think this Orioles change is a good start.

never mind. user error.

...the spiders and the perfectos were 2 different franchises...the robison brothers owned the spiders and bought the NL st louis franchise before the start of the 1899 season...they promptly raped the spiders team for the benefit of the perfectos (which had been the browns in 1898 and became the cardinals in 1900)......there is simply no doubt that the spiders are not the same franchise as the cardinals...

...there's a very nice chapter near the end of harold seymour's "Baseball: The Early Years" titled "Monopolistic Mor***" that chronicles the NL's descent into a robber baron mentality with the spread of a "baseball, red in tooth and claw" mentality through both the front offices and playing field, and the consequent rise of the AL......aside from the fiasco of bad faith exemplified by the transfer of players to the St Louis franchise from the Cleveland one, Louisville's ownership sent its best players to their other franchise in Pittsburgh and the Brooklyn/Baltimore combine did the same thing with the O's players going to Brooklyn...before the next season, the league paid the double dealers to shut down the Cleveland, Louisville and Baltimore franchises, and the clownish wagner brothers were bought out in Washington as well...

I've been away for awhile, thanks for this type of information. It will save me $, when I create my teams.Glad to be back.

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Quote: Originally Posted By Bilfert on 1/27/2008Los Angeles Dodgers

Los Angeles Dodgers (1958 - 2007)
Brooklyn Dodgers (1911, 1912, 1932 - 1957)
Brooklyn Robins (1914 - 1931)
Brooklyn Superbas (1899 - 1910, 1913)
Brooklyn Bridegrooms (1888 - 1890, 1896 - 1898)
Brooklyn Grooms (1891 - 1895)
Brooklyn Grays (1885 - 1887)
Brooklyn Atlantics (1884)

I just wanted to say that the Dodgers have the best team names.

thanks Bilfert Im a 60s fan so I love Marichal,Fergie, I of course know how good Koufax Gibson were curses ha ha ha

Well hell, the most recent version of the st louis perfectos was the kansas city a's. As if I needed any more reason to hate the Yankees :-)