thanks... i agree with all of that, but still had so many disappointing postseasons that i was getting really frustrated there. as always, i think there is a crapshoot facet of the NT, but somehow guys like taz, killbatman, camrun, and several others always manage to make good runs... i want to get into that group somehow, but have no idea what the difference is-- is it in team composition, or in actual game coaching? it certainly isn't all luck.